2019 Scroll Tier List (In progress)

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  1. TheFuzionBranz

    TheFuzionBranz Well-Known Member

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    Rankings are very strict from SS to A- as there are levels to stuff such as priority + tools. I consider the Gap between A+ and A very small and barely noticable, but S to A would be a little more serious. Same goes to A+ vs A-. A- vs B shares the same concept, but C and D is a whole different ball park while not being indepth.

    **This thread doesn't consider RE as Rare**

    Exocore Tier = Get your wallet out and check your bank statements
    SS = Overpowered, People will cry
    S+,S- = Top tier scrolls
    A+,A,A- = Highly recommended
    B = Decent scrolls
    C = Not recommended (lackluster, missing stun, recovery, etc)
    D = Trolling


    SS: ZinTKD isn't the hardest reset to pull off. It can be done under so many conditions that it can be done as a INF anywhere. Thats game why its rank 1 here. D.Bringer has priority in close comeback and is combined with amazing engage stun+reach. Its only competition is counters, grabs and taking advantage of user mistakes. ZinKarate as a scroll is just a monster. It has the best combos in the game, But the 2 before it have tools that change everything. Hitman has more mixup and damage on punches, Easier & more accesible advances too. Its real amazing feat is a safe kick combo launcher. Hitman BFLE is after it. Its upgrades don't live up to RE's but are amazing. Rest arent really ranked but deserve to be listed as OP
    1)ZinTKD (Inf Reset)
    2)D.Bringer
    3)ZinKarate
    4)Hitman RE
    5)Hitman BF LE
    00)DarkHazeNinjitsu BF LE
    00)

    S:
    -Akido
    -BloodWindNinjitsu
    -CombatTekkyon
    -Cyclone
    -DarkHazeNinjitsu/G2S
    -Dowul
    -Eagle Claw RE
    -Hitman
    -Electro
    -Hunter
    -Meriken
    -MuayBoran
    -MysticArts
    -Rage/Rage RE
    -Shoot Boxing
    -VermillionPhoenix
    -Xinyi Liuhe Quan RE
    -Zin TKD


    A+:
    -Agent
    -AnotherAvenger
    -BlackTurtoise/BlackTurtoise RE (Doesnt justify a rank up, But cleary better due to more B skill,counter and second Cz)
    -Capoeira RE
    -ChoyLiFut
    -Dotetsu
    -Dragon
    -EagleClaw
    -ElLuchador
    -Gungki
    -HawkHunter (Launcher is less safe. Has certain tools added but all are pretty punishable and can be reproduced by ZinTKD's launcher)
    -Heartseeker
    -Hondon
    -KravMaga
    -PrayingMantis(1v1 Only)
    -RagingFist
    -Redemption
    -ShaolinTiger RE
    -TheBlueDragon RE
    -Tongbeiquan
    -Volador
    -Viper
    -WingChun(1v1 Only)(Greatly hurt my its speed/range outside of 1v1)
    -WhiteFang
    -WhiteTiger RE
    -

    A:
    -Crasher
    -ExtremeTKD
    -IceBreaker
    -KazakhKuresi
    -Liberty
    -Lightning
    -PaKuakuan
    -ShaolinCrane
    -ShaolinTiger
    -Shidokan
    -Stalker
    -Volt

    A-:
    -Abyss
    -AnotherBaguazhang
    -AnotherSerpent
    -Blackout
    -Born
    -Capoeira(1v1 Only)
    -CombatSambo
    -Darksider
    -JinTekkyon
    -Judo
    -LimenBaguazhang
    -LuchaLibre
    -Metatron
    -MuhonNinjitsu
    -MuscleBuster
    -PlumNinjitsu
    -Redleg
    -RedRockNinjitsu (>>Z Spam in FFA/Teams)
    -Sanshou
    -Slash
    -Stinger
    -TheBlueDragon
    -TheWind
    -WhiteTiger
    -WingChun

    B:
    -Asura
    -Capoeira(1v1 Only)
    -Dambe
    -Destroyer
    -Dirty
    -Gentleman/Casanova
    -InnerFire
    -InfiniteNinjitsu
    -Kabudo
    -Kenpo
    -Kingpin
    -Leviathan
    -MachKnuckle(1v1 Only)
    -Persona
    -PrayingMantis
    -RedRockNinjitsu
    -RedScorpion
    -Serpent
    -ShaolinSnake
    -Soulless
    -TengoryuKarate
    -ValeTudo
    -Xingyquan
    -Xinyi Liuhe Quan


    C:
    -Boxing
    -ColdBlooded
    -Jeetkundo
    -MachKnuckle
    -ProWrestling
    -Sunmudo

    D:
    -Default


    E:
     
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  2. SlimeGirl

    SlimeGirl Well-Known Member

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    imagine using any of these scrolls ever.
     
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  3. ReleaseTheNudes

    ReleaseTheNudes New Member

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    What about rare scrolls?
     
  4. Maomi

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    Good list, you even included a 1v1 listings (yay)! Even though you did provide reasoning for your list, it's still opinionated and thus can only be taken seriously to an extent. The fact that a lot of rare scrolls could be considered of higher tier can also skew the data. Maybe NimoniX can use this as an example and make a more detailed list with reasonable points of reference. However, I still like the effort, this is really nice indeed!
     
  5. Windstorm

    Windstorm Glacial Master

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    Why tf is Kenpo B tier?
     
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  6. HumoLoco

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    He's old gen, and I agreed with him Kenpo is B tier lol.

    Kenpo is op cuz it was very popular and used in gw.
     
  7. TheFuzionBranz

    TheFuzionBranz Well-Known Member

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    Kenpo is pretty undecent.

    The factoring of having tools can only weight in to a certain extend.

    None of the combos have decent properties asides from hitbox/motion, Which in this case act as Pros and Cons at the same time. The scroll has no feeling of being safe while having no perfect traits.



    True, However even if Nimonix made a list, It would be opinion based. Even if I made a poll, took peoples comments, etc, It would still be opinion based.
     
  8. Windstorm

    Windstorm Glacial Master

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    i get what you mean when u listed Tengoryu as B but Kenpo sitting there just feels wrong to me
    its ur opinion as #1 1v1er so ima just dip here

    sass+ on you listing B tier scrolls as decent while calling kenpo undecent tho
     
  9. HumoLoco

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    Kenpo > all scroll :>
     
  10. TheFuzionBranz

    TheFuzionBranz Well-Known Member

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    Its not a "1v1 opinion"

    Its not because I am good at 1v1 that I'm a 1v1er. I play way more of other modes than I just play 1v1 lol.

    Kenpo has tools, but crap recovery. Its very linear, its only good "angle" is the KP combo. Which isn't 100% safe. Cz is nothing special of a ground hit. Gets easily outplayed in close angle distance.

    In skilled play, its at disadvantage
     
  11. Draygashi

    Draygashi World Record (Al Hata), Clean Up Crew

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    It’s definitely better than some of the scrolls in the same category. In my opinion, it would be a B+ tier, or most of the current scrolls in the B tier need to be put in a B- tier
     
  12. TheFuzionBranz

    TheFuzionBranz Well-Known Member

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    IMO the gap inbetween B tier wasnt important enough to seperate, due to the fact you really need to invest into these scrolls to make them shine, exploit its strenghts, etc.

    The high skill levels required to use these efficiantly (and I mean, do as good as you would with shootboxing, with per say kenpo).

    Edging seriously hinders the ability to rate and judge scrolls. You can fance with PPK or easily angle a KP with Kenpo. But simply put, a smart player knows how to kill the opponent, how to stay safe, etc. If his skill is equal or lets just say hes playing "without error", you will be at disadvantage if he has a superior scroll. In Rumble Fighter people tend to not take frame-data serious enough, but really its more important than anything.
     
  13. TheFuzionBranz

    TheFuzionBranz Well-Known Member

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    I could seperate the B Tier if anything
     
  14. HumoLoco

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    How about Class and Rare tiers and Hybrid tiers?
     
  15. Hercule

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    this list would be practical if Rumble did anything to encourage using some of the less popular scrolls
     
  16. Windstorm

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    *inhales*
    Kenpo
    PPPP - 1st punch is good, it's linear but it comes out quick. 2nd hit recovers decently and packs more stun. 3rd hit has a delay option. Can't angle at all.
    PPK - Godly fence edger, unsafe on block. Punishable. Also does not angle.
    KKK - 1st kick recovers extremely well with godly poke range. 2nd and 3rd do not recover well at all but can be used to punish from a long distance. You know it doesn't angle. Can BU Juggle.
    KKPPP - Kenpo's mixed combo has delays on all of its inputs, along with bad recoveries. Only option to safely use this on block is to block after KKPP, or angle the last hit. Don't even dream of this angling anyone.
    KP - As you said KP is Kenpo's only angle-able move. It serves as a great edging tool and wake-up game. Best used from behind or in skirmishes for max effectiveness.
    kG - Kenpo's groundhit that packs a load of blockstun. It's only safe from the front, as the animation lets you retreat back a small distance as the enemy's blockstun wears off. This will always win against a Saver user, and sometimes enemies that attempt to nanmu you.

    Kenpo shines in 1v1 and the edge scene.
    you seldom lose with kenpo against better close range scroll options (hi shoot boxing, hi agent! come join the party hitman!) that have more flexibility with their attacks. a scroll's potential can be defined from it's first punch. when shoot boxing gets close, kenpo's punch gets interrupted since the animation didn't finish. From a distance, shoot loses hit trades thanks to kenpo's stun + range. Kenpo isn't perfect, but it sure as hell can go toe-to-toe with any scroll just fine.
     
  17. TheFuzionBranz

    TheFuzionBranz Well-Known Member

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    Tbh, Kenpo doesn't shine at all per say. Practice + Skill with any scroll can work, Even default. I'm not saying its optimal or you will win everything, But you can be among the highest of skill levels (Due to the fact of Skill in RF having such an impact and depth). The fact is, Everything it does, Other scrolls can do better. Other scrolls have both launchers and fencers as kick combos. Other scrolls are also built to be capable of doing both Damage and Edge potential. Sometimes its good to have a scroll that can do both, NOT ALL are built to do both. This helps you kill someone who is playing safe in Moonlight or Glacier for example. Or as someone who really likes his scroll and practiced alot with it, Can 1v1 with his massive accumulated experience.

    Facts are, You either need a first hit capable of PUNISHING, CLASHING, ETC. OR you will need combos that have advantage in recovery/stun ratio that is hard to read.



    FuzionBranz's personal Kenpo Rating:

    +Has range
    +Has a 2 hit with mix up (charge, good angles & unpredictable hitbox)
    +Can bu
    +Fence combo
    +Okay Damage(Long combos)
    +Has a full kit (2 hit, long combos, launch combo, can bu, fence, mixup)

    -Both punch and kick first hits come out slow. (will lose engages & clashes)
    -Very linear
    -Fence is locked to punch combo, can always be blocked.
    -Launcher is very linear, (not always 100% edge potential, can be avoid even while hit by proper placement, etc)
    -Launcher is very slow (can be blocked if ANY delay is used)
    -No inputs at all have a good combination of RECOVERY+STUN. The hits with recovery has no stun at all and will lose pressure. Hits with stun have no recovery and will lose pressure.
    -Kenpos KKPPP has alot of stun to stop a player from doing any action (Simular to other scrolls, if you do KKPPP as fast as you can, the player cant do any inputs due to stun. However the second there is a delay, by mindlessly doing counter, it will match the timing of any delay due to stun.
    -Kenpos kick combo has no angle outside of KP. Very easy to read and predict.
    -Kenpo is easy to bait

    I missed a few things for sure, but these are the features that stand out the most IMO.
     
  18. Scrpz

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    My dude got a PhD in Rumble Fighter LMFAOOO
     
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  19. talisraelhiskia

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    Eh... Droid arts is an SS/A+ scroll. SS for 1v1 (reset which is simple), A+ for multi.
    Asura is S/A+
    Wicked Flare is S/A+
    D. Bringer A+
    Tengoryu Karate is A+
    Dark Haze Ninjitsu non G2W is A+
    Gentleman and Cassanova should be A
    Vermillion isn't s but A
    Black Tortoise shouldn't be more than B.
    Many, many mistakes and miscalculations.
     
  20. TheFuzionBranz

    TheFuzionBranz Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but I got to ignore all of this.

    In no world is T.Karate on par with DHN, Wicked Flare or DBringer.
     

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