NO ACCRECIA SHOULD APPLY FOR ARCHON FOR PROTEST

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  1. Jimbo

    Jimbo Active Member

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    They get no class buffs and if they are in melee armour they get no dps from that, sure they can get food dps when they are geared up but nothing super, also not heard anything about ferms 2 shotting people so I can't comment on it.

    and best in the game? would love to see the top end of some of the lvl 70 strikers.

    but refresh only takes of the last skill debuffed, put net on us second and we can't wipe virus with refresh, we also need staff equipped to refresh so you should be able to kill us fast with no sheild on.

    refresh is a t2 skill, only mages can use, not all bells unlike the nade's. all bells get t1 spells, they are all pretty useless, apart from weakness.

    Its only holy spells i can use without a staff, being able to use force heal is what we are talking about lets not talk about using force without a staff for 1 skill. 30% hp sure is a lot but you can out dps that easy. Maybe on some bells you need 4-5 acc to drop fast, but some ACC specs need 15+ bells to drop.
     
  2. HardAzz

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    I just told you the top end of my Striker = 50K + (with support buff) 45K without and in pvp I will loose 10/10 times to anyone of the MageTanks on my previous list. Even if they stand in 1 place, let me use both my skills, and don't debuff me I still cant drop them. Thanks for confirming that all Bellora can use T1 spells but ACC can't use T1 nades. You don't see an problem with this? Like Bellora there is only 1 spell/nade that is of any use. You have weakness, ACC has cure. ACC does not have army specs like Bellora has mages so it is needed for the balance that everyone is talking about lately. As for the invincible ACC specs you are talking about please name 1. I assume that those 15+ bells have some high levels mixed in there. We are not talking about a gang of level 50's right?
     
  3. kwaihing

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    What u said is a joke, we have been having headache chasing acc to kill for 10 yrs plus, since entangle just dont have effect with the speed acc has

    u said ruins the chance for acc to run is trashtalk, if a net like punisher that ruins you from running, then you have ruined us too coz punisher has same type of net, acc spec is the real problem that ruin people from running, not every single class can refresh in cora and bell, acc spec can perma net all non mage class
     
  4. France

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    Staff = Siege

    Non-mage bellora classes can use any lvl of staff they wish as long as they GM their force pt, and when they do they can only use the Basic spells/debuffs.

    Velocity can be debuffed while Nimble Joint cant.

    If lvl1 Grenade Launchers will be enabled again for all classes, then the things that you guys are enjoying right now will have some changes too such as NJ can be debuffed, your amus won't have speed bonuses, also launchers and siege kits will be limited to the gunner class.

    Now you choose.
     
  5. HardAzz

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    Haha France I didn't know you were a developer... Nice to meet you. Sounds like your the guy that is in charge of balancing this game so I guess we send our suggestions/complaints to you from now on. I'll try to explain why your coworkers probably designed the game like they did as far as ACC speed goes.

    ACC does not have force buffs so we need to get our speed from amus. Only class that can use NJ is the Battle Leader spec class which is 1st or 2nd least played class on ACC in my estimation. There are so few of them people have to make lvl 40 alts they can put at HQ portal to buff themselves with (I do). Don't quote me on this but I believe NJ only increase our speed by +2 where velo increases speed by 4 or maybe 5. If you are able to debuff NJ then it basically becomes another wasted class skill because every Bellora that carries a staff (probably around 80% of population) can buff strip. The nice thing for Bellora is when you get your buffs stripped there is always a mage around that can rebuff you compared to the 3 or 4 Battle Leaders that might be online to rebuff ACCs. See how the numbers are working here?

    When you come out with your next patch maybe talk to the guys about adding some speed to Bellora eles and reducing the the effect of Velo so you don't loose all your speed when buff stripped.

    As for the launchers and SK I have never heard of that being an issue. Have you ever pvped a non striker that sieged up on you? If you have I hope u killed him and thanked him for being stupid. Like you said all classes can use any lvl staff as long as their pt is GMed. I believe the same goes for Maus.
     
  6. Dropbox

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    Just to make this clear, GM velo only adds 2 movement speed. It would be bad if someone who doesn't know reads this.

    GM pt for MAUs for non-rider classes? No, it's not possible. Us non-rider classes don't have access to it.
     
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  7. iamjdag

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    Velo is 2.0

    Another thing to note is that the accretian movespeed from vios was fine back when the pb popped like once in a while and it was only in bm thus being actually rare. The problem is that everyone has vios extremely easily now
     
  8. HardAzz

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    Ok so guess I was wrong about Velo and now that I think about it my math definitely did not work there. So if Velo = +2 and at full speed on my ACC my eles give me +2 speed why does everyone complain about ACC speed? If ACC does not have NJ buffed don't we have the same move speed? I would think Velo is a good thing for Bellora since you don't have to worry about loosing speed when u equip 3 Bros eles, HDH sets, and atk/HP amus like ACC does. This is a nice little perk for Bellora to be at full power + max move speed. When i put on my best ele set speed becomes a real problem.
     
  9. RiscaFaca

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    15 bells to drop a Acc spec? lmao, these bells are lvl 30? there 1 or 2 acc spec that have good itens to pvp here, the rest use a +0 INT or normal armor. True, only mages can use refresh but open ur mind first before anything, there 80% from cora and bell is mage. I've already see some mages that can clear fast and easy debuff's from spec, a exemple Seira.
     
  10. bube92

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    80 sir? please tell me the magic place where the mages hide at i'd be very appreciated so we dont have to wait for a mage for 61 ets for hours while the rest usually consists out of 5 maus and 2 warriors.
     
  11. Accord

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    Reading all the thing that has been said in this topic, some people has got good points, others are s non-sense that may brains are burning.

    That's why i would like to quote my signature below, here.


    RF Online should be in the status of: case closed:cool:, pointless to discuss about a 10 years old fcked and bugged game as this one, people have been doing this for all those years and this will never comes to an end or common sense
     
  12. Jimbo

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    Because acc can run faster than bells with entangle+ laboring breath if we are in attack mode. Remember this is 2 speed lowering buffs and we can get off one attack and then the acc will get away while the animation plays. maybe 2 spells if i am a mage but i can't aoe as speed + aoes don't mix well.

    This also brings me on to the point of zerker nets, i think its the wrong way to fix it as they should make the entangle spells/skills work better but bells nets are not really viable as mau with a base speed of 2, never mind needing 5+ to catch acc.

    Idk, was it QQ and someone else used to come core and basically tank the race, if they were low hp, they had 2 def runes. I also seen a Y mau hitting 700 on a no name 60+ spec. So +0 armour or not you are still strong.

    and as bube said, i would say from my guild on the highest active levels(lets just do 1 page) 2 melee, 2 rangers, 2 maus and 4 mages, so that's 40%. Race wide i would say that's about right, maybe go for a even 50% but on other guilds there is a lot of mau's.
     
  13. iamjdag

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    because you still can get an NJ which is now 1080sec AND can't be wiped off. but aside from NJ... you have the full move speed we have that can't be debuffed AND the 0.5 movespeed gamescampus added to base accretian move speed

    NJ
    0.5MS from gamescampus
    can't have ANY speed modifier wiped

    so yeah its annoying when you are fighting accretian melees and they would pop the sprint melee buff and walk out of your screen while they were entangled and you were using your ranger armor and wind weapon and still can't keep up even while they're "walking"
     
  14. France

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    i do not expect you to agree with me but you can't have your cake and eat it too.
     
  15. darkshem

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    so be it...
     
  16. 4driano

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    I feel good seeing all these accretians crying like babies. Deal with it.
    Specialist accretia always been OVERPOWERED (pure or XTanker).
    MAUs and Animus in PvP - They were useless for years and years, we complained about it of course but we didn't all this drama, now we got some updates and I've seen babies around.
    I wish all you accretians suffer for at least two years, then you can feel what we felt about unbalanced classes.
     

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