Weapon-Option Enhancement Update

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by [CM]NineArts, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. BlakeCR

    BlakeCR New Member

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    just make "A Bottle of 100 Dew" cheaper and every one would be fine with this update. ppl wont buy stones in marketplace if they can't affort to donate those bottles in the first place
     
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  2. Revered

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    You should think twice before You post something like this. Joined date same as writing post, and You act like You know what is good for ppl here. But I can explain to You why cheaper Bottle it`s not enought.

    Before this patch to made Loyalty 1k were only necessary some drop items [Good Nuggets, easy to get, gold free]. To make Grade 5 from Grade 4 was only necessary to have a few Level 5 Stones, and a few Level 4/3/2 to rebuild grade if You fail.
    Let say You failed sometimes and used:
    3xGrade 5: 3xL5 stones=3
    10xGrade 4:10xL4 stones=10
    9xGrade 3: 9xL3 stones=9
    6xGrade2: 6xL2 stones=6
    1xGrade 1: 2xL1 stones=2
    .........................
    Total=30 Stones

    Now, after patch to make Grade 5 from Grade 4, You need [let`s say You was equal lucky]:

    3xGrade 5 try = 3x28 L5 stones=84
    10xGrade 4 try =10x23 L4 stones=230
    9xGrade 3 try = 9x17 L3 stones=153
    6xGrade 2 try = 6x11 L2 stone=66
    2xGrade 1 try =2x5 L1 stones=10
    ..................................................
    Total = 543 stones

    Good luck to drop them.

    30 versus 543 - do You see the difference? And don`t forget, I set up equal rates, so no need to use Enhancement Supplements. But rates aren`t equal - there is a reason why we got Supplements.

    Open question is: Do level 5 and higher stones drop or we have to exchange level 4 for them [1:10].


    543 Stones - yes its only an example but:
    - its only for grade 4 to 5, what about grade 0 to 4?
    - what about higher grades?
    - its only 1 from 6 weapon stats, what about enhance all 6?
    - what about weapon for all 3 characters?
    - what about changing weapon every 12 levels?
     
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  3. Yiotis

    Yiotis New Member

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    Well this update has caused some significant outrage for the players... (and it's justified mind you!)

    First off,
    [Red Fox Games, Fix the new Supplements ASAP. The descriptions are Wrong. You put the Rank4 description on the Rank5 Supplement, and the other way around.
    Unless you wanted to sell the R5 cheaper then the r4. Or maybe there are no Rank 4 supplements and it was supposed to say Rank6.]
    ^ That was my error, miss-understood that part.

    And to carry on,
    What the hell? I understand Overhauling the system to make it less frustrating (I now have more storage space again, 5 full bags of stones I was saving on 2 characters have become only 7 slots, much appreciated), but come on this update was ridiculous.

    First point.
    Removing the enhancement option from all Blacksmiths NPCs makes some degree of sense. Making Heffei again the Center Hub of commerce and upgrading gear, I can get behind. But doing so negated a lot of work players did to gain Loyalty with every other Blacksmith NPC. And to add insult to injury, you lock Loyalty gains with this new NPC behind an absurdly high Pay-wall?
    You should STRONGLY INSIST that John woo Games developers change this. Hell make it a similar item collection-donation with items that can drop even at lower lvl maps. Sure players wont be happy about it, but they will be less angry and frustrated, as 9DAwaken already requires a lot of gold sinking, and gold makin is not that great especially in low to mid lvls.

    Second point.
    Requiring many Refinement stones per attempt? Really? I mean players like me that had a big stockpile of Stones now have a lot of them, but they wont last long. And with those crazy prices to buy them from the npc (at least we can still get the first 3/4 ranks from the npcs we already got loyalty with at a discount), I don't see this being a thing players will look forward to enhancing their weapons.
    I also don't know how often the new Refinement Stones drop, (I have not grinded in quite some time) or up to which Rank they will appear as drops. I've seen up to Rank 6 drops of the old stones.
    This has the easiest solution of all. Reduce the required number of needed stones. (ideally for me is 1 Stone for ranks 1~4/5, 2 for ranks 5~9 and 3 for the elusive rank 10)

    Third point
    Combining Lower Rank stones into Higher Rank ones.
    I'll be honest, it's a feature I really wanted. Wished it existed on the previous version of this.
    However this Succeeds or Fails based on the availability of high (and lower) rank stones from drops. (buying them to make higher rank ones just does not seem like a good investment to me)

    I won't even bother talking about the paid content in the Marketplace for this... The base aspects are demanding enough that a big percentage of the player base wont bother with it. And of those who do so, an ever smaller percentage of them will sink their cash in for this (seeing how marginal and random these gains are)
     
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  4. [CM]NineArts

    [CM]NineArts RedFox Games Staff Member

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    You can also use your loyalty points at other Blacksmiths or Village Chiefs to purchase Enhancement Stones.

    @Revered - All Enhancement Stones can and have been dropping from mobs in-games.

    @Yiotis - Thank you for your feedback regarding our new system. Also, to clarify, with the Enhancement Supplements, it starts from "Rank" 5 at the lowest. It's a bit confusing, but that's why it's labeled as Rank and not Level. Rank goes down, and Level goes up.

    Don't hesitate to give us your feedback as we also share this information with our developers to followup on any events or content we implement. :D
     
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  5. Czezry

    Czezry Active Member

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    Have a like mate , you can hear our voices , now to pass them forward to the devs and other mods , hell , maybe someday ill recommend 9d to an outsider xD
     
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  6. manfe

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    How to drop/remove enhancement stone from bag?
     
  7. Michiyo

    Michiyo Well-Known Member

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    Drag them to the recycle bin icon in your bag.
     
  8. Stereotyped

    Stereotyped Well-Known Member

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    This new content is so cool. It helps me not come back to the game again. Thank you so much, Dear Team.
    Was a bit nervous about my eventual going through the immense self-humiliation, depressing stakes and lovely attitude from the other players. But you did it, saved me from diving into this cesspool once more.
    This new content was a complete turn-off for me.
    Again, thank you so much, Dear Team, I love you. I really love you, no sarcasm, believe it or not.
     
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  9. BlueBewy

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    They have to make these things since people leave from game so they make more money. and than even more leave .....

    Got on forum after 3/4year that i left and still nothing new to make me come back.

    Atleast some graphical improvements could be made on landscape/models..its been thesame since acclaim (not talkling about new maps that i never went to because game forced me to leave before i got there)
     
  10. Czezry

    Czezry Active Member

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    The sad thing is the RF is JUST A PUBLISHER.
    They aint gonna make any changes without JW's approval.They host the server , communicate with us and dish out what JW will serve us.
     
  11. Sirme

    Sirme Active Member

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    CM, I was wondering why you deleted my post in the "Attendance Rewards" thread, can you pm me why? or something...cause I don't know what is wrong with it? Please and ty. And if not, Ty anyways. And if asking this is against the rule...just delete the inquiry, ty.
     
  12. [CM]NineArts

    [CM]NineArts RedFox Games Staff Member

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    If a post goes off topic and is disruptive to the community, it will be removed and may result in a warning depending on it's severity.
     
  13. Czezry

    Czezry Active Member

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    What about disruptive individuals? Do You guys sometimes consider more severe punishments? Asking for future reference in case a serial barking individual starts beeing vulgar again. Sorry for offtop but i dont wanna start more ruckus over him than needed (he seems to enjoy that).
     

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