[POLL] Archon and Palmas Armors

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  1. [GM]Foxtrot

    [GM]Foxtrot RedFox Games Staff Member

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    Hello RF Online!

    Earlier this year, we applied the "One Archon" Armor rule to address the issue of players exploiting set bonuses to gain an unfair advantage. Since this rule was applied, we have received a lot of feedback about the removal of these items and the bans players have gotten.

    Now that some time has passed, we are asking the community about their thoughts regarding this issue. Should more action be taken to address Set Bonuses from armor sets or have the currently established rules worked to reduce this exploit? Please leave your feedback below!
     
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  2. PogsYetKam

    PogsYetKam New Member

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    just remove the effects of CA and PALMAS, Didalous and Knight walkers. or JUST DELETE IT all
    that's all.
     
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  3. PogsYetKam

    PogsYetKam New Member

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    1 set CA and 1 set Palmas is still OP, this should be removed completely.
     
  4. SilentBomber

    SilentBomber New Member

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    Hi GM...

    If you can remove its stats for now, then just remove the stats.
    Just disable it but dont delete it.

    But dont disable the rings since Accretia Strikers uses it for faster aspd.

    Also if the time comes that you can update your fireguard, then you can revert back its stats.
    Maybe you can learn from other rf servers, I heard those things does not work there.
     
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  5. arkit

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    You can use this as temporary fix and update your gameguard. You have to update the gameguard because some Player here are using Cheat Engine to Gain Bonus Stats from AA Set, Ring and Amulet. And thats why they were asking you to remove the armors because they found new way to gain advantage which is from Cheat Engine. And i heard a player you banned recently asking for hack packets from youtuber. It seems your ban policies were ineffective to them. No offense but your gameguard are outdated than hackshield of other Official RF Online Company like RF Playpark, RF Indonesia, RF Korean and RF Europe. Thats why even newbie of computers can use simple hack in your game. You should learn from the example of other RF Company that got closed because of low security system.
     
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  6. arkit

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    Look GM, it is not about removing archon armor or palmas armors. Its about update your gameguard to prevent more hacks that destroying the games. Too bad i saw the player who badmouth your company and the one who suggest you to remove archon armors was asking for Bellato Packets from youtuber. But one of our players caught him and now he removed his comment from youtube link i provided to you. That shows how weak your policy is and how weak gameguard system in this game. And also it shows you who was Hypocrite Players here.

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  7. Dhane

    Dhane Active Member

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    Mafia please don't bust them all out :D

    This might immediately resolve those who abuse AA bonus using CE or any cheat programs.
    The GameGuard on this server is like a decade ago.
     
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  8. nedius004

    nedius004 Active Member

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    Yust look to EU server there they have deleted all set bonus of evry item and worked all the set bonus in the items
     
  9. Mexx305

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    Hackshield working on RF playpark, RF lyto and RF 4game )))))))))
    It was funny, I laughed.
    Cheats work absolutely everywhere, the fact is that our game does not bring so much profit for the publisher to update the defense at least once a year.

    The problem is that the administration does not want to lose players and loyal to those who use bugs and donate to the game. if there are harsh punishments in the form of perma bans, then people will simply not cheat, fearing for their account and things on it.
     
  10. FullHP1

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    Just delete all palmas and CA armors, problems will be solved
     
  11. smackmy

    smackmy New Member

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    i have palmas,didilos,knihgtwalker armour across all 3 races the amount of time it took to get them to get the mats to make or the amount of in game money it cost to buy was mental it took years to get some of the parts and just because some people cheat and bug sets you want to remove them from game?
    Thats hardly fair for the rest of us that dont cheat or bug .
    Ban them ban the cheats not remove more content of the game
     
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  12. MisterGraciano

    MisterGraciano New Member

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    Hi GM delete them all and compensate for the ones who have palmas, kw, and dida set. Since it’s hard to collect mats for it and crafting it.

    Like golden jet pack lol

    Thank you love you muah
     
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  13. RozaliaGrrr

    RozaliaGrrr New Member

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    Seriously, instead of thinking to remove the Knightwalker, Palmas, Dedalos armor, why don't u try to just fix the damn bug?! People that want it removed, is only because they don't have the armor, but SOME of us, have spent money and time to get or craft a piece! Kinda unfair to remove them, don't u think?!
     
  14. ImTurner

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    And About Elementals? or You Thinking that this Working Only for AA/Ancient Armor this Bug Also Working on any Ancient Bonus, Use AA Bug is the Old Way. People Can do The Same thing With Any Working Bonus (The Bonus With Yellow Name), eg: Some Ancient Amulet Have a Bonus When Combo, With Well Know u Can do The Same Thing as AA Use the Bonus then Equip Another Kind of Elemental then you Can Use Both Combo.
     
  15. ImTurner

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    yes you are Sure, *"People that want it removed, is only because they don't have the armor, but SOME of us, have spent money and time to get or craft a piece!"*. People Crying to Remove the Armor its Just cuz They Don't Have Armor to Bug. RedFox Will Never try Fix that Kind of Bug Maybe u Don't Know the RedFox they Doesnt Wanted Waste 1$ With RFOnline, Its Already a Old Crap Game.
     
  16. Triztt

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    I suggest to hand over RF USA to a company that actually can handle the game.
     
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  17. fernandez

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    Yeah GM, remove it, remove all CA and PALMAS/DIDALOS/KNIGHT . And check [ImTurner] too. He always using CA without aura when he want
     
  18. Tensai

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    Hello GM,

    To begin, I would like to say that the action you took with the rule of one Archon Armor does not solve the issue of players bugging stats. It only means that instead of bugging numerous armors stats, they will only bug one armor stats. So the problem is not really solved. You solve the NPC bug concerning bonus AA ect.. but u forgot to apply to certain NPC.

    They are 2 types of cheats presently used:

    Type 1st : bugging armors like AA, Palma ect…stats.

    Removing the stats of those items will most likely fix the problems of bugging but you will be also reducing the already few gear there is left in RF, unless u plan on implementing 73 to 80 armors soon?

    How will you compensate those who work hard to acquire those gears? (PS: I am still upset I got my AA set melee and force delete to “solve” the bonus bug problem which is still on going >.< without compensation).


    Now there is the 2nd type, which removing stats on AA ect…won’t affect them.

    This type are the Cheat engine users.

    The possible solution for them is to update maybe gameguard…BUT also inform yourself on how they bypass gameguard to start with. I think by now you should know since they are some threads mentioning it.

    Now to conclude, all decision taken must be enforce or even if you solve one problem you are just encouraging cheater to work for alternative since it is obvious now there is no such thing as permanent ban in redfox. With no enforcement anything we do, even this post will be render useless.
     
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  19. Thunderlike

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    plain and simple, just remove the bonus stats from the set as a whole and redristibute those stats from bonus into the 5 pieces of the armor, just like @MafiaTank showed on this thread.
     
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  20. Poddy

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    Basically as mentioned above from MafiaTank and Thunderlike after just change it so there is no way to abuse the bonuses from elementals when combined together and also armour sets.
    Also at the end of the day it is pretty simple, do your part as members of staff (GM) and give these lovely cheaters BANs until they are permanently banned and removed from the game ^^
     
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