[9Dragons] - Stat System Comparison New vs Old

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  1. Falcon

    Falcon Active Member

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    Many thanks to @Kuro1986 for testing out the new Stats on all classes. ;) Maybe this will help you decide how to make your build, once the OBT starts.

    9Dragons Awaken Stat System

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    (New) Vagabond:

    1 Str:
    +3 Dmg, +1 Def.
    1 Ess: +5 Ck Def, +15 Ve.
    1 Wis: +3 Ck Dmg, +1 Ck Def.
    1 Con: +22 Hp, +5 Def.
    1 Dex: +15 Ar, +10 Dodge, +15 Ck Dr, +10 Ck Dodge.

    (Old) Vagabond:
    1 Str:
    +3 Dmg, + 6 Def.
    1 Ess: +4 Ck Dmg, +2 Ck Def.
    1 Wis: +2 Ck Ar, +1 Ck Def, +1 Ck Dodge.
    1 Con: + 20 Hp.
    1 Dex: +4 Ar, +4 Dodge.
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    (New) Warrior:
    1 Str:
    +5 Dmg, +4 Def.
    1 Ess: +5 Ck Def, +37 Ve.
    1 Wis: +3 Ck Dmg, +4 Ck Def.
    1 Con: +60 Hp, +8 Def.
    1 Dex: +20 Ar, +16 Dodge, +15 Ck Ar, +12 Ck Dodge.

    (Old) Warrior:
    1 Str:
    +3 Dmg, +6 Def.
    1 Ess: + 35 Ve, +4 Ck Dmg, +2 Ck Def.
    1 Wis: +3 Ck Ar, +1 Ck Def, +1 Ck Dodge.
    1 Con: +40 Hp.
    1 Dex: +5 Ar, +4 Dodge
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    (New) Nuker:
    1 Str:
    +3 Dmg, +3 Def.
    1 Ess: +8 Ck Def, +35 Ve.
    1 Wis: +5 Ck Dmg, +4 Ck Def.
    1 Con: +25/26 Hp, +5 Def.
    1 Dex: +15 Ar, +12 Dodge, +20 Ck Ar, +16 Ck Dodge.

    (Old) Nuker:
    1 Str:
    +3 Dmg, +6 Def.
    1 Ess: +35 Ve, +4 Ck Dmg, +2 Ck Def.
    1 Wis: +3 Ck Ar, +1 Ck Def, +1 Ck Dodge.
    1 Con: +25 Hp.
    1 Dex: +4 Ar, +4 Dodge
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    (New) Healer:
    1 Str:
    +4 Dmg, +4 Def.
    1 Ess: +6 Ck Def, +29Ve.
    1 Wis: +4 Ck Dmg, +4 Ck Def.
    1 Con: +42 Hp, +6 Def.
    1 Dex: +16 Ar, +18 Dodge, +16 Ck Ar, +18 Ck Dodge.

    (Old) Healer:
    1 Str:
    +3 Dmg, +6 Def.
    1 Ess: +30 Ve, +4 Ck Dmg, +2 Ck Def.
    1 Wis: +3 Ck Ar, +1 Ck Def, +1 Ck Dodge.
    1 Con: +40 Hp.
    1 Dex: +4 Ar, +4 Dodge
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    (New) Hybrid:
    1 Str:
    +4 Dmg, +3 Def.
    1 Ess: +5 Ck Def, +27 Ve.
    1 Wis: +4 Ck Dmg, +2 Ck Def.
    1 Con: +36 Hp, +6 Def.
    1 Dex: +18 Ar, +14 Dodge, +18 Ck Ar, +14 Ck Dodge.

    (Old) Hybrid:
    1 Str:
    +3 Dmg, +6 Def.
    1 Ess: +25 Ve, +4 Ck Dmg, +1 Ck Def.
    1 Wis: +2 Ck Ar, +1 Ck Def, +1 Ck Dodge.
    1 Con: +35 Hp.
    1 Dex: +5 Ar, +4 Dodge.
     
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  2. Seven

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    So how do I build ck hyb? :D
     
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  3. Falcon

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    If i remember good, old ck hyb was like, wis enought for weapon and rest in ess ... with new system i supose will be like Dex enought for weapon and rest in wis ... :)
     
  4. Kuro1986

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    A CK hyb in this version needs more stats. Enough dex so you wont miss, because you need to grind on red mobs a lot. Like zombies or deva's at the beginning, because you lack the proper speed gear for faster mobs at the start. Enough Wis to do decent damage. Then you need enough Ess so you don't have to meditate after 1 - 3 kills because your VE has ran out. And enough con so you dont get 1 hit KO'd by mobs or players when you are grinding. Liaodong will be a pain if you cant take a hit. So either go melee until CS to restat in hefei (remember in this version you can only restat once in hefei). Or use the stats of the bracers for your level and the rest how you see fit. Just make sure you have around 100 - 120 dex or more on SM so you can easily grind on lv 116 mobs like deva's. I'm guessing the zombie spot will get crowded at the beginning.

    And don't forget this version is PvP maps only from HZ/NN and onward.
     
  5. zohan

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    Original spots for zombies and devas are empty, do you know where are they moved in this version?
     
  6. zohan

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    Putting your data in a table:
     
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  7. Kuro1986

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    Let me find a decent map and I will put them on there. Deva spot is pretty easy if you remember the small deva spot near wild tower. All of them are there now including the quest ones.

    NN I don't know yet. Haven't been there.
     
  8. zohan

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    STAT_RF.png 2016-02-16 00-03-39 Screenshot.png 2016-02-16 00-04-03 Screenshot.png
     
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  9. Kuro1986

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    HZmap.jpg

    On the orange part you can find the deva's. I saw zombies popping up on different spots on the red road among other mobs. Just have to wait till OBT to make better maps.
     
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  10. HandSolo

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    I think the new stat system is a great improvement.

    CK hybrid is not really viable anymore but lets be honest, it was only viable before because of broken skills. Only Beggar was broken for the longest time until we got an update to break them all. With the longer cool downs and reduced stats compared to nukers and warriors I just don't see CK hybrids being able to keep up in PvP and PvE late game. However, you can be an actual hybrid now, unlike before, which makes sense.
     
  11. Rong21

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    Chi kung user have 2 stats that increased their chi kung dmg, Essence increased skill dmg by % does not show on basic stats, unless u cast the skill

    as for Wisdom u can see the above post, in GC Essence increased basic dmg of chi kung, and Wisdom increased skill dmg % u only see it when u cast the skill
     
  12. zohan

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    In fact I did test Ess/Wis/Dex to see whether it adds % to the casting skill (read pure dmg, skill dmg -> add stats-> reequip weapon -> read pure dmg, skill dmg). All results - negative. No dmg changes with Ess addition. At least for my HD nuker.
     
  13. itsthem

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    Just wondering are you colour blind?
     
  14. zohan

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    That's the question of perception, btw what color is the dress?
    dress.jpg
     
  15. itsthem

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    Light blue? Purple?

    It certainly is not red, and neither is the font you said was red on that chart.
     
  16. zohan

    zohan New Member

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    This dress is tricky. It could be seen as blue-black or as golden-white. Atm it also seems blue-black to me, but believe me or not, 30 minutes ago when I was posting the image I was staring at golden-white dress.
    colors.png

    As to that excel table, thanks, you've found a bug which I'm going to fix with next patch before OBT
     
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  17. Marjonduruin

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    lol :) ill go for warrior....
     
  18. Veltaine

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    Thanks for the stat postings, very interesting to see how much more balanced this game is. Playing so far it feels a LOT different from previous versions, in a very good way IMO.


    I'm still amazed how some can see gold and white. I really can't no matter how many times I see it.
     
  19. iDropBombs

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    Why does warrior get more VE than nuker?..
     
  20. Idolized

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    do they?? That's pretty messed up. Maybe nuker gets bigger VE pool later levels and masteries.
     

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