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Scroll is original, looks cool and plays well. Probably impossible to get tho just like Yellow Dragon.

 

3.6%. I'm actually going try because it's a KoF boss scroll.

 

Where did you get the rates from? And yeah, KoF has lots of scrolls in this game like Inferno from K, all the KoF scrolls in RF are really cool and stuff :3

 

Throw us a bone mate, at least start releasing boxes in higher quanity if y’all not gunna put the price down. There’s 31 different items because y’all released so much varients. On top of each item having a timed version to it, 1/64 chance bruh. I’d kill to see 64 people in-game at once in 2019. What happened to 5+1? That’s only for older boxes? lol

 

You can’t count rates like that. Every item listed in the box, has variants. From what we have seen there is 3 types of every item. Then there is timed versions of everyone of those items. Then we have them useless carat coupons and revives etc. Then there is the actual forced rate of items.

Most games will put 2-3-4x the same item in gacha pool so that even if there is only 60 items, well the bad ones from that 60 are way more probable to get.

Nimonix doesnt announce rates, but if there is lets say 60 items total counting the timed items and trashtier fillers, you could expect that in the coding that box has 80 items with 20 of those being the same crappy items in there to up the % of bad items
And lower the % for rare items

 

No Cyclone BF LE is an alternate version of Cyclone. We dont call muay boran an alternate version of red scorpion do we?
Cyclone = Benimaru
Tempest = Mix/Custom
Black Dragon = Goenitz

 

Oh my apologies, .5% chance for getting it perm.

 

I mean, Full Impact is around 0.015% i believe.

So I'm not surprised anymore

 

wtf?

 

nice

 

Got a question where the f**k y'all learned that the number from?


because i have never heard of .8%

i only have heard of this .08 into 8% and 8% into 0.08.

 

In order to calculate, what the odds were for the boxes based SOLELY on the advertised items I just counted using the list they provided which is 2 to 53 which converted into decimal form is 3.6%

So what Fuzions brought up is first of all was that my math was wrong, because I only factored in what they showed was AVAILABLE in the box.

But for a better perspective here's a visual tool I'll use to explain the boxes and the numbers a little better. Because I am a visual learner.


The top two layers are what I factored in (30 Day/Perm) 3.6%
When in reality I should have factored in other layers i.e (Angel Wings/Coupons/Garbage Items etc) which drives that 3.6% even further down.

 

Sure. Let's talk about the math possibilities. I would love to talk about it. Because you are one of my favorite people. Nothing can compare you to the hard rider on this game. Have you ever heard of math possibilities?

Let's talk about this new trash box.

I see we have 64 items in this new trash box. There's 34 perm out of 64.

If I want that Yellow Dragon or Black Dragon either. It would be 2/64.

How many different items are possible? That's 1. because it only give you only one items
How many items are in there? That's 64 are in there.

Now we have the chance around 1/64 into 0.015625. Now what's 0.015625 into a percent? That's 1.6% each of them are the drop rate to get a single items is 1.6% chance.


But @TheFuzionBranz said 0.015% which mean is 0.000015 which is make no sense. I called this undefined number for the math possibilities.

:>

 

I knew I messed up my math somewhere thanks for fixing it HumoLoco AF, I just was trying to hit a ball park. But you have to remember the Full Impact odds were the ones Fuzion was stating were 0.015%.

 

Yea Impact is less than the drop rate. I was joke on him, cuz he's still my rival of my best friend.

 

Yeah the whole 3 versions of each clothing item PER GENDER (6 each) with both perm and timed variants (12 total PER ITEM) is the single worst thing I've ever seen on RF considering Sejuls Top is dropped by a package that contains both genders. There's no defending this.

 

new clothes are always in boxes..I'll pass

 

It would be make 3/64 and then 1/3? but actually that's 6/64 and 3/6. that's sad. the more they add trash the more difficulty we want to get that scroll.

 

You are simply GUESSING, that every item has flatout the same rate. In such a case, The chances of getting 2 pieces of the same suit are the same as guessing the scroll 2 times?

Now lets take the concept of Gacha: Its lottery/RNG to get items on games. Most of the time, You will have items that are "fillers" to take up room, just like losing tickets or basically winning back equal/less money than the ticket price in real life. This would translate into most timed items, coupons, pouch items, etc.

If we take another look at gacha, Some games have armor gachas with prizes being EPIC/RARE/COMMON tiers, While all having the same number of pieces, Common could have a 75% chance, Rare a 20% and Epic being 5%. Lets say each set has 5 pieces. That makes 15 total. The chance isn't 1/15 to get an Epic. Its 5% for an epic, then again that 5% will be brought to a lower value cause you have 5 pieces of RNG once you get to that pull ratio.

We can look at it as a unit based game. Lets say you pull units in a game (banners, etc). A 5* being a 3% drop rate, a 4* being 17% and a 3* being 80%. Lets say that there is 120 units total in that pool. Then lets say there is a event or a stepup event where 5* becomes 6% but summoning pool stays the same.



Depending on the system used, You can force a % for each item to total out 100%: Example:
Blackdragon: 2%
Blackdragon(timed):8%
set package:4%
set package(timed):16%
emblem:6%
emblem (timed):14%
angel wings:20%
coupon 2k: 20%
coupon 4k: 10%
^^That totals out 100%/9 items. You do not have a 1/9 chance.



Another system could make a bix, With 9 different items, but not a 1/9 chance, Example:
Blackdragon: 2%
Blackdragon(timed)
Blackdragon(timed)
set package
set package(timed)
set package(timed)
emblem
emblem (timed)
emblem (timed)
angel wings
angel wings
angel wings
coupon 2k
coupon 2k
coupon 2k
coupon 4k
coupon 4k

 

You cannot create a percentage on each items. That's fact. Who the f**k has time to create a percentage on each items? It's random percentage on each items each time you opened box. Have you ever thought about that?

You know. Ever heard of algorithm?

If you know the c++ or c# or whatever you know about the code language. Then I can talk about it.

I will show you a very simple code. If i want to f**king screw with the people with that cute scam two dice. I program it.

Code:

int main()
{
int dice1, dice2, sumOfDices, Total =0;
int time[12] = {0}; // a random number for array of 12.
int expected[12] = {1,2,3,4,5,6,6,5,4,3,2,1}; // to create two dices of the number in an array.
srand(time(NULL));

for(int i = 0; i <=100; i++)
{
      sumOfDices = 0;
      dice1 = rand() % 6+1;
      dice2 = rand() % 6+1;
      sumOfDices = dice1 + dice2;
      times[sumOfDices]++;
}

for(int i =2; i <=12; i++)
{
     Total += times[i];
}

for(int i = 2; i <= 12; i++)
{
   cout << i << times[i] << 100.0*expected[i] / 36 << 100*(double)times[i] / Total << endl;
}
return 0;
}

This has 100 times of possibilities throw two dices in the first game will show the result of display is
2 has 2 in total
3 has 3 in total
4 has 9 in total
5 has 19 in total
6 has 18 in total
7 has 12 in total
8 has 15 in total
9 has 11 in total
10 has 4 in total
11 has 4 in total
12 has 3 in total

100 times of possibilities threw two dices in the second game will show the result of display is
2 has 1 in total
3 has 11 in total
4 has 8 in total
5 has 15 in total
6 has 14 in total
7 has 15 in total
8 has 15 in total
9 has 6 in total
10 has 10 in total
11 has 3 in total
12 has 2 in total


now what if 1 time of possibilities threw two dices in the first game? It would look like this

2 has 0 in total
3 has 0 in total
4 has 0 in total
5 has 1 in total
6 has 0 in total
7 has 1 in total
8 has 0 in total
9 has 0 in total
10 has 0 in total
11 has 0 in total
12 has 0 in total

now next second game would look like this

2 has 0 in total
3 has 0 in total
4 has 0 in total
5 has 0 in total
6 has 0 in total
7 has 1 in total
8 has 1 in total
9 has 0 in total
10 has 0 in total
11 has 0 in total
12 has 0 in total

now next third game would look like this

2 has 0 in total
3 has 0 in total
4 has 0 in total
5 has 0 in total
6 has 0 in total
7 has 1 in total
8 has 0 in total
9 has 1 in total
10 has 0 in total
11 has 0 in total
12 has 0 in total

now final four game would look like this
2 has 0 in total
3 has 0 in total
4 has 1 in total
5 has 0 in total
6 has 0 in total
7 has 0 in total
8 has 1 in total
9 has 0 in total
10 has 0 in total
11 has 0 in total
12 has 0 in total


What's your point talk about forced percentage on each items?


also if you want me show you the actual of rumble fighter's code for box. i can show you how are they worked.