Savate Boxed?

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  1. Entrusted1

    Entrusted1 Clean Up Crew

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    I understand the RF community has recently participated in a scroll creation event. Congratulations to those who won, but something isn't right here. I've been playing RF for 8 years, so i feel i know a really good scroll when i see one as opposed to an average one and i'm really confused as to how something as underpowered as Savate could be boxed, never mind that everything in there is perm and the boxes probably have good rates. But honestly how could that be boxed but something like Marang Ninjutsu wasn't? I hope it isn't the simple fact that it was a user made scroll, so they boxed it. Is there a reason behind this i'm not seeing? Can someone give me an honest answer.
     
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  2. Jazztech

    Jazztech Well-Known Member

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    Same reason Fearless, Sumo, and Hungar are still boxed. They're not really up to snuff with the rest of the newer scrolls in terms of almost anything.
     
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  3. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Savate in my opinion, feels pretty powerful

    A punch combo that has a launcher (It causes a spinout, which means it can give positional advantage)
    A kick combo that has a launcher (4 inputs especially. That's painful)
    It has a dodge launcher that actually hurts

    so that's 3 launchers.

    The grab gives positional advantage
    It has a trip combo (gives positional advantage)
    It has a reliable fence edger

    The stun of the moves are yet to be known, but I'm sure the scroll creator himself will reveal these values. And the angling properties


    It's not the flashiest scroll out there, but I can see why it's boxed
     
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  5. Tengu

    Tengu Creator of Savate

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    The scroll as a whole is very safe and very fast. kGPPP 3rd punch has amazing delay. The grab can be followed up by a ground hit. The ground hit moves enemies on the ground further than any other scroll and can easily angle to move them left or right off a nearby ledge on the 3rd hit. Many animations blend in with each other so it's difficult at times to tell what combo you are in, sometimes even for me. Scroll should be boxed tho it has down sides like it's lack of arcing hitboxes.
     
  6. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    It's safe to say that your scroll implementation is a huge success

    the scroll looks really darn cool too

    The PPK alone makes me want to get this scroll
     
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    I see they forgot to add a very crucial part of the scroll,i'm pretty disappointed in you RedFox.

    At the moment of reading this you are wondering "What did they forget?!"

    Well my child...they forgot the sneakers.

    WOAH IS ME! LACK A DAY! LACK A DAY! THEY LEFT OUT THE GOD DAMNED SNEAKERS!
     
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  8. SacredSwordJr

    SacredSwordJr Well-Known Member

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    The thing I dont get is how come we got a scroll that is a like a exocore but still in shop. And Savate that got no special kG or run z like Marang but its in box. Like do u get my point ?Btw did Tengu get the scroll from GM/Nimonix?
     
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  9. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Savate does have a special kG though - it has a dodge, with a combo that has 3 inputs and launches. That's like the most painful dodge launcher ever

    and Savate's groundhit moves opponents further than any other groundhit in the game right now, so that itself makes the scroll very special.


    There's no need for a scroll to have a >>G input for a scroll to be powerful




    Not every scroll that's awesome should be boxed. Some scrolls are boxed for the sake of being boxed, but Savate does have attributes that make it a worthy rare.




    I'd be so upset if Marang Ninjutsu/Mystic Arts/Hunter/Choy Li Fut/Asura was boxed, and a lot of people would be too. Not every single powerful scroll in this game should be boxed either. Even the top 10 scrolls (that were boxed for a long long time) are coming back to the store.



    And Tengu got his scroll obviously, because he won the scroll contest. He gets the scroll whether it's rare or not


    A lot of scroll creators in the suggestion forum demand for their scroll to be rare, and yet people are upset about a scroll creators's scroll being rare too? Tell me how funny that is. Any scroll creator would jump in joy realizing that their scroll is special due to its rare status


    What's more humbling for Tengu is that he never wanted Savate to be boxed, yet it still did. At that point, you can't even be mad at Tengu for that.
     
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  10. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    I'm just saying that a lot of scroll creators lowkey wouldn't mind that their scroll is rare, because you know how rares are. Rares make the scroll extremely valuable, no matter what kind of scroll it is

    I can understand why some scroll creators wouldn't want their scroll to be boxed though. If a scroll is boxed, there's less people using it, and that's depressing for some scroll creators. Some scroll creators prefer their scroll to be used by many many many players, than only the people who have money to throw at boxes
     
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    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Yup, this is why I find it rather frustrating that some scroll creators are pricing their scroll as a rare in the suggestion forum. I'm sure many players that support the scroll actually want to use the scroll and have it in their inventories to keep

    But in Tengu's case, he really wanted Savate to be a shop scroll; it still became a rare anyway

    It must be humbling for him to see that happen
     
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  12. Tezmanian

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    Would of been great if none of the new items in this update were boxed. Leaving it in the shop for anyone to buy within the time limit is a more fair game then pure chance.
     
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    Shina Creator of Shattering Hand

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    This
     
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  14. Draygashi

    Draygashi World Record (Al Hata), CUC

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    I'm sorry, but the Scroll is so recycled @Tengu it's not worth it being almost $6 a box.

    For those looking to spend money on the boxes, or Rumble Fighter in general right now, don't even bother.
     
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    Disregard Well-Known Member

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    You have a good opinion.
    But honestly, I still don't see why this scroll should be boxed. Yes combo potential wise is good but, does it really look like a scroll to be boxed to be honest?
    Multiple scrolls other then marang have the same things as savate that are in store, I have watched this replay numerous times and I still do not see it as being boxed.
    Yes, its not flashy but it looks like any old scroll (old = actual martial arts in my standard) we had.
    Also mentioning that the dodge is just like Stinger but with a juggle for punch and kick for... well kick.
     
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  16. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Scrolls that get boxed are not boxed based on power/flashy-effects anymore

    They are rather boxed for the sake of being boxed
     
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    Disregard Well-Known Member

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    But... this is the first time that is actually boxed by not being flashy in for a long time.
    Sure I haven't tried the scroll out yes, maybe it could change my mind but it just looks like something from the store that's all.
    And probably never will because I do not buy boxes.
     
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    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Yeah. Hunter could've easily been boxed, and Mystic Arts especially, and Marang Ninjutsu

    but Savate out of all those scrolls got boxed, so I guess it's just a matter of it being boxed for the sake of being boxed



    Savate's scroll design is pretty powerful though, which is why I can see why it's boxed similar to non flashy scrolls like Hungar, Telos, Sumo, and Fearless
     
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    My fcken point of fearless and sumo and all the others, think this is gonna be the reverse effect of actual scrolls being boxed for good reasons this time?
     
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  20. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Savate is a pretty powerful scroll, and it seems pretty high tier, so it's not too questionable


    But the problem I do have with the Savate box is the ridiculous 6$ pricetag for 1 box. People already spent around $150 and got no scroll. Seems the rates are low for what this box offers at its price


    I didn't have much problem with Sumo's rare status since the box only costed like 180RC each, and the boxes are permanently in the shop
     
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